Town of Eastchester, NY: Minutes, Architectural Review Board Meeting, March 7, 2007

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2 EASTCHESTER ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD MEETING

MARCH 7, 2007

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MINUTES OF THE

EASTCHESTER ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD MEETING

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10 HELD AT: Eastchester Town Hall

40 Mill Road

11 Eastchester, New York 10709

March 7, 2007 7:00 p.m.

13 BOARD MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE:

Rose Marie Brescia

15 Enda McIntyre

Laura Raffiani

16 Maria Bonasia

Fernando Papale

EASTCHESTER EMPLOYEES IN ATTENDANCE:

LOUIS REDA, Deputy Town Attorney

21 MARGARET UHLE, Director of Planning

JAY KING, Building Inspector

24 DINA M. MORGAN, REPORTER

25 COLONIAL ROAD

25 BRONXVILLE, NEW YORK 10708

(914) 469-6353

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Ms. Brescia: Calls meeting to order.

Pledge of Allegiance.

Ms. Uhle: Calls roll.

Mr. Papale: Present.

Mr. McIntyre: Present.

Ms. Brescia: Present.

Ms. Raffiani: Present.

Ms. Uhle: States Ms. Bonasia will be

10 arriving shortly.

11 Ms. Brescia: Reviews applications.

States application for 46 Parkway Circle was

12 adjourned.

APPLICATION 06-94, SUNOCO

15 Mr. Allocco: Chris Allocco, 8 Roy Place,

attorney for the applicant. Reviews

16 application.

17 Mr. Graham: Glen Graham, Graham

Associates. Explains they're looking to

18 install a twenty-four foot by twenty-six foot

steel canopy. Indicates they prepared four

19 different layouts. States a standard layout

would be a stock canopy, which is basically a

20 square box twenty-four by thirty-six with

thirty inch fascia. Explains to get trucks

21 under the canopy they need a clearance of

fourteen foot six and the thirty inch fascia of

22 the canopy is to hide the structural parts of

the canopy and fire system. States other

23 options are gable and hip roofs. States they

prefer a flat canopy but if the board prefers

24 they will look into one of the other three

possibilities. Explains it's a steel frame

25 canopy with two columns that are ten by ten

painted white. States drainage for canopy will

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be internal and they have a dry well proposed

2 so there is no run off and there will not be

any icing. States they will have four four

3 hundred watt metal lights. States lighting

will not leave the property or the curb line so

4 it shouldn't effect anybody driving by.

5 Mr. Papale: Asks how they are going to

collect storm water.

Mr. Graham: Explains it will be a gutter

7 system and it will tie back internally coming

down the columns.

Ms. Raffiani: Asks if the fire

9 suppression system is mounted inside the roof

or outside.

Mr. Graham: Explains the fire

11 suppression system is a series of nozzles and

you will see six inch nozzles dropping down at

12 their aiming points. States bottles will be

mounted inside the roof.

Mr. Papale: Asks if anything will be

14 mounted over the roof.

15 Mr. Graham: States no, everything will

be internal.

Mr. Papale: States he likes option two

17 with the hip roof.

18 Ms. Bonasia: Asks if they are proposing

a couple of different materials.

Mr. Graham: Explains on the hip roof it

20 will be thirty year black architectural

shingles and have a smooth steel white fascia

21 band about eight inches. States gable ends

they were going to do siding that would match

22 the building.

23 Mr. Papale: Discusses drainage. Asks

how they are planning to get from the gutters

24 to the columns.

25 Mr. Graham: States they would have

something external tying it back into the

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gutter. Explains normally it's done with two

2 four inch or six inch internal drains. States

on the hip roof they will have one at each end

3 tying back into the gutter. States the whole

thing would be surrounded by the gutter but the

4 drain itself would feed from the canopy ends.

5 Mr. McIntyre: Explains board is

concerned about how you transition the liter

6 back so it ties into the pole.

7 Mr. Graham: Explains they don't have a

choice except to have some external mechanism.

Ms. Raffiani: Feels the side view on

9 this site is what you see. Feels they have to

aim for that side to make it the best looking.

Ms. Raffiani: Asks if roof on the

11 existing building is slate.

12 Mr. Graham: States yes. Explains it

would cost them triple the amount to do slate

13 on this.

Ms. Bonasia: States a concern about the

14 contrast of the coloring.

15 Mr. Graham: Explains existing roof is

very old. Feels black shingles will blend best

16 with it.

17 Ms. Brescia: Suggests using a dark gray

shingle.

Mr. Graham: States they could look into

19 using a gray.

20 Ms. Raffiani: States there are asphalt

shingles that have a slate color.

Mr. McIntyre: Feels the liter needs to

22 be thought out.

23 Mr. Graham: Asks if they have to provide

drainage for this canopy.

Mr. McIntyre: Yes.

Mr. Graham: States they could talk to

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the canopy manufacturer and see what they have

2 done in the past. Asks if they could get a

conditional approval contingent upon getting a

3 drainage design.

4 Ms. Brescia: Feels this is something

they need to see before it's approved.

5 Explains application still has to go before the

Planning Board.

Mr. McIntyre: Explains since they have

7 to go to the Planning Board some of the

concerns ARB has applicant could be shown on

8 the drawings submitted to the Planning Board

and Planning Board could review them.

Mr. Allocco: States they could work that

10 in before the next meeting.

11 Ms. Brescia: Makes a motion to open the

public hearing.

Mr. Papale: Seconds motion.

(All aye.)

(No comments.)

Ms. Brescia: Makes a motion to close the

16 public hearing.

17 Ms. Bonasia: Seconds motion.

18 (All aye.)

19 Ms. Brescia: States board likes the hip

roof, they would like applicant to address the

20 drainage in an integral fashion, take a look at

the architectural grade shingle color wise to

21 match the existing roof.

22 Ms. Uhle: Asks that they bring a

physical sample of the roof to the Planning

23 Board.

24 Mr. McIntyre: Discusses lighting.

Mr. Graham: Explains they are using

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recessed flush mounted lights.

Ms. Uhle: States Planning Board will

3 require they either be recessed or shielded.

Explains if they're recessed that should be

4 fine.

5 Ms. Raffiani: States she would like the

roofing material color to be as close as

6 possible to the slate.

7 Mr. McIntyre: Asks on the finishes if

everything will be painted white.

Mr. Graham: States with the gable roof

9 it will be a white fascia and white columns.

10 Ms. Brescia: Asks if there is any sign

on that.

Mr. Graham: States no.

Ms. Raffiani: Explains currently Sunoco

13 is not in compliance with the sign law.

14 Mr. Allocco: Explains this is a

significant expense that the proprietors are

15 going to take on now for something that was

initiated by the town. States they have other

16 plans for the building afterwards. Feels that

would be a better time to address the signs

17 rather than have them take their signs down now

and have the Mobil station keep theirs up.

Ms. Raffiani: Feels they should take

19 this opportunity to get in compliance.

20 Mr. Allocco: Explains he just wants to

get the safety factor resolved.

Mr. McIntyre: Asks when they were

22 contemplating doing it.

23 Mr. Allocco: Explains they understand

what the sign law is and what they have to get

24 in compliance with. States they were hoping to

do the project the town is asking them to do

25 first and then when they get into something a

little more of their own initiative at that

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point their hands would be tied to do it.

2 Explains they would like to get the safety

factor handled first.

Ms. Raffiani: Asks when that would be.

Mr. McIntyre: States they would like

5 them to comply with the sign law.

6 Mr. Allocco: States the Mobil Station is

also not in compliance.

Ms. Uhle: Feels they could do a very

8 attractive monument sign that would be very

visible. Feels the fact that someone else has

9 a very unattractive sign whether it's permitted

or not permitted is not the best argument.

Mr. Allocco: States until he speaks to

11 someone at Sunoco he can't answer that. States

if the board has enough to send this along with

12 the recommendations, he will commit as an

officer of the court to continue the process

13 regarding the sign. States he has to explain

to Sunoco this is the law but he was hoping to

14 keep one thing moving. States he will call the

representative tomorrow and tell them this is

15 what the ARB would like to see and he will

continue the dialogue until they get it done.

Ms. Uhle: States an option is board

17 could allow them to proceed to the Planning

Board, they could submit the final drawings to

18 the building department but before the building

permit is issued or before a certificate of

19 compliance is issued a sign application has